Ben Stein interviewing Richard Dawkins
Ben Stein interviewing Richard Dawkins

This is partial text of the interview of Richard Dawkins, (English evolutionary biologist, writer, and outspoken atheist) by Ben Stein from the film Expelled. In this section, Dawkins acknowledges that it is possible to find evidence of design in biology.
STEIN: How did it get created?
DAWKINS: By a very slow process.
STEIN: Well, how did it start?
DAWKINS: Nobody knows how it got started. We know the kind of event that it must have been. We know the sort of event that must have happened for the origin of life.
STEIN: And what was that?
DAWKINS: It was the origin of the first self-replicating molecule.
STEIN: Right, and how did that happen?
DAWKINS: I told you, we don’t know.
STEIN: So, you have no idea of how it started?
DAWKINS: No, no, nor has anybody.
STEIN: Nor has anyone else. What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in Darwinian evolution.
DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it’s possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.
STEIN: Wait a second. Richard Dawkins thought Intelligent Design might be a legitimate pursuit?
DAWKINS: And that Designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe. But that higher intelligence would itself have had to have come about by some explicable, or ultimately explicable process. It couldn’t have just jumped into existence spontaneously. That’s the point.
STEIN: So, Professor Dawkins was not against intelligent design, just certain types of designers such as God.